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Post by Premier League News on Mar 30, 2015 14:28:51 GMT
 ‘Very few black managers can lose their job and get another’ John Barnes claims he is struggling to get a job in management because he is black. The former Liverpool star’s last managerial job was at Tranmere Rovers in 2009. He lasted four months before being sacked. The 51-year-old has previously been in charge of Celtic and the Jamaica national team.Barnes insisted that, had he been white, he would have got another job. “A white manager loses his job and gets another job, he loses his job, he gets another job. Very few black managers can lose their job and get another job,” he said on John Barnes: Sports Life Stories, to be broadcast on ITV4 on Tuesday. “What I can judge it from is by looking at society. How many black people are there in the higher echelons of any industry? We can talk about journalism, we can talk about politics. So why should football be any different?” Barnes’ first job in management, at Celtic for the 1999-2000 season, ended in the wake of an embarrassing Scottish Cup defeat to Inverness. But he denied that job was too much too soon. “Well, if it comes now at 51, I don’t think it will be any different,” he said. “It’s more to do with the perception of my ability to do the job, because there’s a certain perception of who can make a good manager.” Barnes’ former England team-mate Ian Wright agreed that the colour of his skin was counting against Barnes. The former Arsenal man said: “With someone of John Barnes’ ability and stature, to not have worked more in the game with something that he’s desperate to do. I don’t know what else it can be.” Barnes, who attended the funerals and met the families of victims following the Hillsborough tragedy, also talked about the guilt he felt after the disaster in 1989. “I felt this guilt that they were coming to watch me,” he said. “I know that they were coming to watch everybody else, and it’s Liverpool Football Club. It’s an irrational thought. “So I felt this guilt. And I wasn’t sure how they would react because had that been my loved one, I wouldn’t want to go and meet footballers or the football team, or ever watch football again.” Guardian
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Post by dorf on Mar 30, 2015 14:37:29 GMT
He wasn't the best manager in the world but I've seen worse or at least equally as bad as him given chance after chance. Why aren't there more black managers in football. It's not as if there aren't many ex players who are black. I think there might be something in it but I can't understand why it's happening.
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Post by juddablue on Mar 30, 2015 18:53:09 GMT
He wasn't the best manager in the world but I seen worse or at least equally as bad as him given chance after chance. Why aren't there more black managers in football. It's not as if they're aren't many ex players who are black. I think there might be something in it but I can't understand why it's happening. I have just googled for info and there are only 3 managers in the whole league who are either from ethnic backgrounds or are black That is a very strange stat indeed It needs to be addressed whatever the reasoning behind it is |
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Post by Avinalaff on Mar 30, 2015 19:32:46 GMT
There are only 20 managers jobs in Premier League football. One would imagine that those jobs are given to the best candidate, given that it is the top league in the world, so it's unlikely that skin colour has anything to do with it.
Are Chris Hughton, or Ruud Gullit considered to be black? Gullit managed at both Chelsea and Newcastle, while Hughton at Newcastle, Norwich and ast manager at Spurs.
Chris Ramsey is currently managing at QPR?
Paul Ince is surely Black?
When an overwhelming majority of managers in the game are white, is it not just coincidence that the chances of a black manager getting the job are less? I'd hate to think it was anything to do with ethnic background, and more to do with the competition available.
There seems to be a lot more black players in the game now, than there were when it was Division 1, so maybe it's just a case of patience. It stands to sense that if the game has less black players, then it will definitely have less black managers, so maybe we'll see a greater number of black managers over the next decade or so as current players retire into management.
Regardless of skin colour, you still have to be better than the rest to get the job, and if the top 20 managers are not black, is it because the current crop of black managers / coaches are simply not good enough, or experienced enough, to get the top jobs?
Let's face it, football is a bit of a closed shop sometimes. The same people have been in and out of jobs in the Premier league since it began. I used to wonder how one manager can be sacked, then re-employed in the same league by another club. Maybe to be a Prem manager you have to have a particular license.
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Post by dorf on Mar 30, 2015 19:46:23 GMT
I'd like to think that it's on merit and I understand in the Premier League they don't just hire anyone but why aren't there more in the lower leagues where they can earn their stripes. I shouldn't need to say this but I'll say it anyway just in case but I'm not playing the race card I'm just curious. Perhaps you're right. Perhaps in ten years I'll be wondering what all the fuss is about.
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