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Post by Avinalaff on Sept 20, 2017 2:03:55 GMT
Get rid of Sandro, Klasson, Williams and Koeman!
Really?
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Post by Avinalaff on Sept 20, 2017 2:09:16 GMT
Now I have been an Evertonian for nearly 50years and have seen some dross over the years. But what I am witnessing this season is shocking. In my opinion , Koeman has lost the dressing room , the players don't look interested and seem unable to do the basics. The season has started under a cloud , The Barkley situation , Mirallas's attitude , Rooney and all the hype/baggage , the failure to replace Lukaku in any way , etc..... improve. Now sacking the manager isn't always the answer , but I feel if we are going to salvage anything from this season , things have to dramatically Your Thoughts? How can he have lost the dressing room? He's just signed a load of players, so I can't see that at all. I think he 'does' upset players, and freezes a few out, but I think it's a bit early to be worrying about replacing him yet. I was surprised 65years wants him gone.
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Post by rugbytoffee on Sept 20, 2017 14:32:44 GMT
Now I have been an Evertonian for nearly 50years and have seen some dross over the years. But what I am witnessing this season is shocking. In my opinion , Koeman has lost the dressing room , the players don't look interested and seem unable to do the basics. The season has started under a cloud , The Barkley situation , Mirallas's attitude , Rooney and all the hype/baggage , the failure to replace Lukaku in any way , etc..... improve. Now sacking the manager isn't always the answer , but I feel if we are going to salvage anything from this season , things have to dramatically Your Thoughts? How can he have lost the dressing room? He's just signed a load of players, so I can't see that at all. I think he 'does' upset players, and freezes a few out, but I think it's a bit early to be worrying about replacing him yet. I was surprised 65years wants him gone. They don't seem interested to me , no passion , no willingness to work , Only Rooney is showing any where near the graft needed. They cut a disconsolate group who aren't enjoying their work. Something is seriously wrong in that dressing room
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Post by 65years on Sept 21, 2017 5:46:11 GMT
Don't be suprised Avinalaff, I've been going to Goodison fortnightly now since 1954.
Like rugbytoffee who has done nearly 50 years, I've seen some dross over the 63 years I've been going but I've never been so disenchanted as I am this season. I thought the season when we could have gone down in the second half rescue against Wimbledon was my worst, but the main difference between then and now is 'player attitude' plus I'm not as fanatical as I was then.
There's too much money in the game, why should a player worry if he can sit on the bench and earn £70K+ and get called on for a short while. They think they're Demi Gods - Yes I know football has changed and players are fitter, more athletic etc. but I remember when as a youth I could get a player's autograph with just a respectful request. Now, you can't get near them! Why do managers now come with an entourage? - "Self Protection" - Koeman must have half of Holland working for him. It's so easy when you've got the money to buy players but at what price and of what quality?
Everton First team don't appear to be passionate, committed or even interested at times.
However I'll be there Saturday!!!
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Post by Avinalaff on Sept 21, 2017 8:42:46 GMT
Don't be suprised Avinalaff, I've been going to Goodison fortnightly now since 1954.
Like rugbytoffee who has done nearly 50 years, I've seen some dross over the 63 years I've been going but I've never been so disenchanted as I am this season. I thought the season when we could have gone down in the second half rescue against Wimbledon was my worst, but the main difference between then and now is 'player attitude' plus I'm not as fanatical as I was then.
There's too much money in the game, why should a player worry if he can sit on the bench and earn £70K+ and get called on for a short while. They think they're Demi Gods - Yes I know football has changed and players are fitter, more athletic etc. but I remember when as a youth I could get a player's autograph with just a respectful request. Now, you can't get near them! Why do managers now come with an entourage? - "Self Protection" - Koeman must have half of Holland working for him. It's so easy when you've got the money to buy players but at what price and of what quality?
Everton First team don't appear to be passionate, committed or even interested at times.
However I'll be there Saturday!!!
I think there's quite a few factors going on at the moment. We sold our best player to our closest rivals in terms of league position. We bought players for large fees which raised expectancy. We failed to buy a quality striker, or, cover for a few other positions. On the last day, we tried to sell Niasse and Barkley to recoup money spent. Our fixture list (with a new team) was as bad as we could have hoped for. I don't think much of Koeman's footballing style, as it's hardly Barcelona-esque, and we are making far too many errors which are costing us. Even last night, we should have been 1-0 down, when for no reason, Williams opted to play a short pass to Besic, who had a man-on, and turned only to lose the ball. It's stupidity from our players. Besic needs minutes on the pitch, but what is Williams excuse? If I were able to change the team 'today', I'd get shut of Baines, Williams, Jagielka, Stekelenburg, Robles, Mirallas, Lennon, McCarthy, and Besic needs to step up as he tries to be too clever. Hopefully we'll have both Bolasie, and Barkley back soon.
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