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Post by rosscrombie on Oct 9, 2017 21:19:09 GMT
You'll be wondering if I was so hacked off at a dismal home defeat, on the back of an equally abject home performance against the might of Apollon Limassol, that I wasn't going to bother writing OV this time around. You don't get off that easily, but if you've had enough 'Everton' during the International break, then you probably aren't reading this, and if you are, you'd be better off doing something worthier with your time, like walking to Lyon, because this isn't going to make you feel a whole load better.... The reality, as has been well documented by pithier writers than me (I think that's how you spell pithier...), we seem to have reached a fairly critical time in the relationship between Manager and Supporters. If some reports are to be believed, between Manager and Players too. It would appear that in public at least, Manager and Board is all hunky-dory. I am not going to use up my spare time, or yours Dear Reader, with a fatuous debate about whether we should or shouldn't keep with the gnarly, humourless Dutchman, who as a player has achieved a great deal, but who has yet to prove he can achieve very much in the hurly-burly of the English Premier League. It looks as if he will be given time, but a defeat on the South Coast at the weekend, and defeat to Lyon the following Thursday, will place Koeman at the pinnacle, literally, of a very high sharp place, as they say. Even two victories will fail to silence all and sundry, and only a run from now until May that sees results turn around and maybe a Cup win (as in winning a Cup, not just winning a Cup match), will convince everyone that we are on an upward trajectory. The thing that bothers me most at the moment, is that I don't know what we are. Are we a sit deep, counter-attacking team? Are we trying to be a fluid, runners from midfield team? What is the identity for which we strive. I can't tell. All I can see is a narrow trench being driven up the middle of the pitch. We don't seem to want to employ a great deal of width, with those that can offer it - Lookman, Vlasic, Kenny, even Martina, or even Mirallas, being reduced to bench-warming or bit-part players. Has any Manager ever in history, ever said, "I know, we'll play really tight and narrow with no focal point in our attack, and you, oy you, left back chappy, whatever your name is, you may well have overlapped once or twice in your career, but if I see you do it again, I'll drop you". It's difficult to work out what the plan is. If we can suss out the plan, we can suss out the personnel required to do the job. But we can't, and worryingly, I'm not sure the players can either. Are we playing Back 3, or Back 4? Which line up of our plethora of No10s are our first choice, and in what formation? Diamond, or fluid (aka treading on each other's toes). The Manager's job, amongst many, is to decide what system works best with the players he has at his disposal. If Koeman had inherited a team, he could justifiably argue that he hasn't got the right players; but he bought most of this Everton team, so that doesn't wash. He needs to decide his best system, his best team to play that system and stick to it. Only once this Everton team knows its core purpose and tactics will they start to gel and move forward. I'd rather rotate in the squad once we have that part of the equation settled. Burnley, for all the Everton expectations of a win, clearly know their core purpose, they play to their strengths, and they'll probably win more than they'll lose. They are a team, a squad, at ease with themselves, lots of round pegs in round holes, and it works. We can learn from that. Ross Crombie
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Post by Avinalaff on Oct 10, 2017 2:00:40 GMT
Are we panicking too soon?
I know we've been poor, but if we're realistic, our fixtures have been difficult to say the least, even if we had all our bits and pieces in order, as we've played 5 of the current top 6 teams, and beat the other two.
Burnley are playing well, so it's fair to say that despite expecting to beat them, they're in very good form.
We're without Lukaku and Barkley, and we could add Coleman to the list, although he can be hit or miss. Our defensive mistakes aren't helping either, which Koeman can't account for, and it's not just Williams, who seems to have had a nightmare start, but others also.
Our defensive midfielders are worth looking at, as Koeman plays them every game, and I've not been impressed with either.
Why Baines is captain I'm not sure, and I don't think Jags is any better, so maybe a switch there might help.
Rooney has had off the field issues, which might be hindering his performances, and Sigurdsson had no pre-season. Klaassen has joined a struggling team, as have the others, and we sold our best player to our rival, so did the board do enough to get a replacement?
We spent about £60m in all, yet we've 7 under 23 players in DCL, Holgate, Davies, Ramirez, Lookman, Kenny, and Vlasic getting minutes which is unheard of in the Prem, and Pickford is just 23. Klaassen and Keane are 24. Barkley is also 23.
Niasse has been brought back in from the cold and to be fair to him has done well.
If we combine all the above, we can understand why we're struggling. How much is Koeman's fault is debatable, but he's the manager, and responsibility lies with him. Without even looking at Koeman's tactics, there's plenty to go on.
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Post by mcrbluenose on Oct 10, 2017 11:33:26 GMT
Its not the getting beat that hurts Evertonians, geeze we are used to it. Its the manner in which we are losing. No passion, no fight, no visible tactics, no pace, very little skill. It's not a case of panicking, its a case of righting wrongs. 30,000 Evertonians cant all be wrong. The only person in the ground who cant see it, is the one in charge.
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Post by rosscrombie on Oct 10, 2017 21:27:11 GMT
Are we panicking too soon? I know we've been poor, but if we're realistic, our fixtures have been difficult to say the least, even if we had all our bits and pieces in order, as we've played 5 of the current top 6 teams, and beat the other two. Burnley are playing well, so it's fair to say that despite expecting to beat them, they're in very good form. We're without Lukaku and Barkley, and we could add Coleman to the list, although he can be hit or miss. Our defensive mistakes aren't helping either, which Koeman can't account for, and it's not just Williams, who seems to have had a nightmare start, but others also. Our defensive midfielders are worth looking at, as Koeman plays them every game, and I've not been impressed with either. Why Baines is captain I'm not sure, and I don't think Jags is any better, so maybe a switch there might help. Rooney has had off the field issues, which might be hindering his performances, and Sigurdsson had no pre-season. Klaassen has joined a struggling team, as have the others, and we sold our best player to our rival, so did the board do enough to get a replacement? We spent about £60m in all, yet we've 7 under 23 players in DCL, Holgate, Davies, Ramirez, Lookman, Kenny, and Vlasic getting minutes which is unheard of in the Prem, and Pickford is just 23. Klaassen and Keane are 24. Barkley is also 23. Niasse has been brought back in from the cold and to be fair to him has done well. If we combine all the above, we can understand why we're struggling. How much is Koeman's fault is debatable, but he's the manager, and responsibility lies with him. Without even looking at Koeman's tactics, there's plenty to go on. It's good to get that perspective Av, and I don't disagree with you. My main concern remains - I can't see what playing identity RK is trying to build. Hope the players can.
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Post by Avinalaff on Oct 11, 2017 12:32:13 GMT
Are we panicking too soon? I know we've been poor, but if we're realistic, our fixtures have been difficult to say the least, even if we had all our bits and pieces in order, as we've played 5 of the current top 6 teams, and beat the other two. Burnley are playing well, so it's fair to say that despite expecting to beat them, they're in very good form. We're without Lukaku and Barkley, and we could add Coleman to the list, although he can be hit or miss. Our defensive mistakes aren't helping either, which Koeman can't account for, and it's not just Williams, who seems to have had a nightmare start, but others also. Our defensive midfielders are worth looking at, as Koeman plays them every game, and I've not been impressed with either. Why Baines is captain I'm not sure, and I don't think Jags is any better, so maybe a switch there might help. Rooney has had off the field issues, which might be hindering his performances, and Sigurdsson had no pre-season. Klaassen has joined a struggling team, as have the others, and we sold our best player to our rival, so did the board do enough to get a replacement? We spent about £60m in all, yet we've 7 under 23 players in DCL, Holgate, Davies, Ramirez, Lookman, Kenny, and Vlasic getting minutes which is unheard of in the Prem, and Pickford is just 23. Klaassen and Keane are 24. Barkley is also 23. Niasse has been brought back in from the cold and to be fair to him has done well. If we combine all the above, we can understand why we're struggling. How much is Koeman's fault is debatable, but he's the manager, and responsibility lies with him. Without even looking at Koeman's tactics, there's plenty to go on. It's good to get that perspective Av, and I don't disagree with you. My main concern remains - I can't see what playing identity RK is trying to build. Hope the players can. I don't think Koeman expected the squad he has, so I imagine he's having to shuffle the pack a bit trying to find what works. I was never 'pro' Koeman from the start, as our forum discussions will show, as didn't think he was the right manager for us, but he's had one season, in which we moved forward, so I'm not going to get all knee jerky just because results haven't gone as we'd have hoped. If we're still struggling by Christmas, then maybe we'll see some strong activity in the window, as I'm quite disappointed with Moshiri if I'm honest, and see through the blue tint.
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